CanuckHT 18:48 GMT, 01/28/2010 Re: w8coach Well, far be it for me to speak up and open my big mouth *eyes rolling* I think that I am going to weigh in on this discussion of "perfect" technique and all of this stuff. I will first say to w8coach that I AGREE there are different ways to skin a cat, there are various beliefs systems in our event, sport and in any sport for that matter...but that is where my agreement, and your logic, ends. First off there is a major difference between "believing" something and "thinking" something - one is based on fact, the other is based on a feeling (not quantifiable)...a chat for another day - point is that it doesn't necessarily lead you to results just because you believe it works. I believe I can clean 223kg...but I think I'm capable of 150kg. Having studied Dr. B's stuff, thrown with his athletes, listened and observed him coach I think that there are two certainties: 1. His approach and his record of um-teen world and olympic medallist and champions speaks for itself and ... 2. He believes in one way or another that there are two ways to throw (within the confines of biomechanics and physics) - THE BIOMECHANICALLY CORRECT WAY & THE BIOMECHANICALLY INCORRECT WAY. That...is...it. If you or any other Ringers want to dispute the work of Sir Isaac Newton - I'm free all day any day for that. There are less efficient and more efficient ways to get the same result (e.g. a measurement or performance) HOWEVER - one approach will have a much lower performance ceiling or potential than the other. I think which is which becomes pretty obvious, pretty quickly.